Automated Tool for WAI 3.2
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Does anyone use an automated tool that checks for WAI 3.2 (correct html markup). http://validator.w3.org/ is great but you have to check one page at a time - although Firefox makes this easier to use.
SiteMorse only does a selection of the site and we have over 4000 odd pages. I've started to look at WebXM - does anyone use this can anyone suggest another product?
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Keith
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there is no WAI 3.2. don't confuse HTML validation with WAI.
[edit] i'm a muppet and got confused...thought keith meant "validate against html 3.2" http://www.w3.org/... ... disregard
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Last edited by redux on 06 Jun 2005 05:06 pm; edited 1 time in total
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in answer to your query (just had to double-check): the WDG HTML validator does a nice job (although i'm not sure about a 4000 page site, mind you) http://www.htmlhelp.com/... (check the "validate entire site" option)
at that level of pages, you may even wish to roll your own solution (see for instance the W3C's log validator http://www.w3.org/... )
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the wdg validate entire site has a maximum of 100 pages.
I know of a utility that can check local html pages, and we are hoping it will be developed to check via http as well.
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SiteMorse offers testing for this, there may be some confusion about the different tests we do (page limits etc) - for reference there is no page limits, most customers test top 250 pages each week and have a full site test about every 3 or 4 months.
full list of tests below;
file/html/badattr
file/html/badvalue
file/html/badentity
file/html/brokencomment
file/html/closeattrs
file/html/closingunopened
file/html/eof
file/html/implicitclose
file/html/longtitle
file/html/missingattr
file/html/missingclose
file/html/noframes
file/html/tagnotallowed
file/html/unknownentity
file/html/unknowntag
file/html/unnecessaryclose
file/html/unnecessaryvalue
file/html/repeatedattr
file/html/titles
url/fetch/badcookie
url/fetch/moved
url/fetch/needauth
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for free? because that is what we were talking about. So far as I was able to learn from the Sitemorse site only 12 pages could be tested for free.
If I am wrong in this assumption please feel free to correct me.
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We offer the service for those with small sites, or those who want to review the service a free test - limited to the first 12 pages of the site.
Our business is selling website services, most other services only provide testing of a single page.
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| SiteMorse Access wrote: |
| We offer the service for those with small sites, or those who want to review the service a free test - limited to the first 12 pages of the site. |
So your tool can't do specific URLs. And its limited to just 12 pages.
That's useful to know. Any plans to correct that problem?
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| Isofarro wrote: |
| Any plans to correct that problem? |
It won't be classified as a problem, but a feature.
Does the system not allow 10/12 individuals pages to be checked then? That is a shame.
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| elfin wrote: |
| I know of a utility that can check local html pages, and we are hoping it will be developed to check via http as well. |
Now released as 'Tidybot'.
It's an open source XHTML syntax checker built on top of the well-known "HTML Tidy" library. If it is installed on a decent machine, it should be able to check 4000 pages within a few minutes.
http://www.kronto.org/...
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| blackwidow wrote: |
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Now released as 'Tidybot'. It's an open source XHTML syntax checker built on top of the well-known "HTML Tidy" library. If it is installed on a decent machine, it should be able to check 4000 pages within a few minutes. http://www.kronto.org/... |
just tried this on some small local folders seems easy to use but like anything 4000 pages might overwhelm you with information
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a version of tidybot runs regularily on a 3000+ page site, 99.99% of which are html hence the reason it was created.
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Shouldn't Tidybot also check files that end with ".xht" or ".xhtml" and perhaps even ".xml"? Very nice tool by the way. 
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We do not have a problem with testing 1 or 10,000+ URL's, it is a feature of our product. We can also monitor individual URL's, we repot any of the problems we find in sites - its the main feature of SiteMorse.
An example of the test from www.sitemorse.com aren't you supposed to have keywords and description to identify pages – they should have tried SiteMorse as it would have advised of this when testing just the home page / single URL – its one of features.
Page address: http://www.isolani.co.uk/
Page title: isolani - Dynamic and Accessible web applications
Meta 'keywords': Information not present
Meta 'description': INFORMATION MISSING
We often find problems in URL's, where incorrect code has been used - only to be told at times this is a feature.
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| SiteMorse Access wrote: |
| An example of the test from www.sitemorse.com aren't you supposed to have keywords and description to identify pages – they should have tried SiteMorse as it would have advised of this when testing just the home page / single URL – its one of features.
Page address: http://www.isolani.co.uk/ Page title: isolani - Dynamic and Accessible web applications Meta 'keywords': Information not present Meta 'description': INFORMATION MISSING |
ROFL - Ok, you point to me where there is a rule requireing page description and keywords as I have yet to see it. Good idea yes, but required, I hardly think so. Read around the SEO areas and you will find many proclaiming that meta data at all is no longer needed as it is not considered important.
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