Hermish
Has anyone seen this (new to me) validator before?
http://www.hermish.com
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Yes, he's been spamming a lot of forums that I visit; the browser test also seems to be wonky but at least it doesn't seem too commercial though the pages themselves could do with a code cleanup.};-) http://www.xhtmlcoder.com/
WVYFC chose the Yorkshire Air Ambulance as the main charity to fund raise for in 2006
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It seems pretty stupid, if you ask me. It issues a warning for all WCAG checkpoints, whether or not it is applicable. It also seems to require 'title' attributes for links, which to me seems like a gross misinterpretation of checkpoint 13.1. If the anchor texts are sufficiently descriptive, I don't need no d*mn titles. 
It also seems to require access keys for all links.
Basically, this is just another form of the WCAG checklist. It doesn't tell you much, other than the number of occurrences. There's no summary to tell you if you 'passed' or not.
I don't think I'll be using this, sorry.
Tommy has left the building
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yup...a useless piece of rubbish indeed. i ran www.salford.ac.uk through it...and it tells me i'm in violation because:
- i'm not using title on every link (although the link text is clear on those without title)
- fail to use tabindex within a form (although the order is already logical)
- don't use accesskeys (although...heck...i do)
why don't we spam back?
p.s.: isn't it funny that his code seems to have a lock built in, preventing his own site from being validated? now that's just genius!
Patrick H. Lauke / webmaster / University of Salford
co-lead: WaSP Accesibility Task Force
take it to the streets ... WaSP Street Team
personal: splintered | photographia | redux
co-author: Web Accessibility - Web Standards and Regulatory Compliance
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and the tab order in his contact form seems kind of screwy as well...Patrick H. Lauke / webmaster / University of Salford
co-lead: WaSP Accesibility Task Force
take it to the streets ... WaSP Street Team
personal: splintered | photographia | redux
co-author: Web Accessibility - Web Standards and Regulatory Compliance
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Hmmm.
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| <body>
<br> |
In fact I counted them (with Homesite). 102 uses of on the home page.
And font sizes in PX.
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He seems to be under the impression that the DDA requires websites to be compatable by October 2004, WRONG, it was October 1999.
I have serious doubts on Hermish's credibility
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| Q: How do you maintain web accessibility once a website has been optimised for web accessibility?
A: Hermish offer a paid service that monitors your website on a weekly basis indicating where detectable violations have occurred. It is also down to the website designer to make sure that content is readable and easily understood. |
Mike Abbott
Accessible to everyone
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sent the site an email the other day, raising my concern about their inaccurate validation results...here's the reply
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Thanks for your valued advice Patrick. We are always open to suggestions. Thankfully Hermish has gained excellent publicity just of late and we are in dialog with a number of influential bodies and changes are being discussed. Automatic checkers will always carry limitation. The RNIB would like to see disabled people employed to carry out such checks. They would of course be ideal but the infrastructure is not yet in place. In the meantime automatic checkers at their very worse are in affect raising awarenes of web accessibility which is the prime intension of Hermish. |
Patrick H. Lauke / webmaster / University of Salford
co-lead: WaSP Accesibility Task Force
take it to the streets ... WaSP Street Team
personal: splintered | photographia | redux
co-author: Web Accessibility - Web Standards and Regulatory Compliance
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| ...Thankfully Hermish has gained excellent publicity just of late... |
Dangerous
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| He seems to be under the impression that the DDA requires websites to be compatable by October 2004, WRONG, it was October 1999. |
I saw that on another site recently - can't remember where - bugs the hell out of me!
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Yea, what kind of "excellent publicity" though?!
Jon Gibbins, dotjay.co.uk, accessibility.co.uk wiki.
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Excellent publicity means he duped people into discussion of the topic and URL; he didn't mean quality-feedback from users at all - what was meant was the topic spread to many forums thus resulting in lots of referring traffic.};-) http://www.xhtmlcoder.com/
WVYFC chose the Yorkshire Air Ambulance as the main charity to fund raise for in 2006
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Hermish.com is trying to run before it can walk. They've rushed a poor attempt at reinventing the wheel (bobby/cynthia) and released a substandard tool on a website that is poorly coded.
Having 'googled' for information, Ive found numerous links pointing to hermish on forums...nearly all of them followed up by people listing various issues with the results given.
I wonder if the number of cautions given (whether they be relevant to the page or not) is a marketing ploy to scare website owners into giving them work?
There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that dont.
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