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| Nigel Peck wrote: |
| Signed, do I get a prize for being sig 100? |
Mike Abbott
Accessible to everyone
Mike
Saw your comments re my first post, hence my arrival here.. Taken from my posting to Karl Dawson's web site
"I can forsee 3 key problems, which we all need to overcome.
1) Talking about it between ourselves in the web dev community and not taking to the public at large.
2) Apathy. What difference will it make, no-one listens
3) The whole e-petition thing not being understood / appreciated / accessible by the public.
For my last point check out the http://petitions.pm.gov.uk web site and see the generally pathetic response to some very big issues. (I actaully also signed up against ID cards whilst there)
It seems to me that the general public who are no longer welcome up downing street with a wheelbarrow containing a petition with hundreds of thousands of signatures (unless of course invited first by No. 10 press office / PR machine), are being fobbed off with a little published service, which cuts off a substantial number of possible signatories (i.e. the millions of people without email addresses)
We should all mail this out to every body in our on-line adderess book. Contact our former / present colleagues / universities and get staff who may me interested to circulate (I did that this morning); everything possible to get it at least to the top of the pile. Sad to say that so far it is going nowhere. That is a great injustice as if this was presented to sufficient people and the case was explained in clear and simple terms, the number of signatories could be overwhelming"
We maybe need 100,000 sigs not 100. I just cannot see it happening unless we get some serious PR on the case.
Saw your comments re my first post, hence my arrival here.. Taken from my posting to Karl Dawson's web site
"I can forsee 3 key problems, which we all need to overcome.
1) Talking about it between ourselves in the web dev community and not taking to the public at large.
2) Apathy. What difference will it make, no-one listens
3) The whole e-petition thing not being understood / appreciated / accessible by the public.
For my last point check out the http://petitions.pm.gov.uk web site and see the generally pathetic response to some very big issues. (I actaully also signed up against ID cards whilst there)
It seems to me that the general public who are no longer welcome up downing street with a wheelbarrow containing a petition with hundreds of thousands of signatures (unless of course invited first by No. 10 press office / PR machine), are being fobbed off with a little published service, which cuts off a substantial number of possible signatories (i.e. the millions of people without email addresses)
We should all mail this out to every body in our on-line adderess book. Contact our former / present colleagues / universities and get staff who may me interested to circulate (I did that this morning); everything possible to get it at least to the top of the pile. Sad to say that so far it is going nowhere. That is a great injustice as if this was presented to sufficient people and the case was explained in clear and simple terms, the number of signatories could be overwhelming"
We maybe need 100,000 sigs not 100. I just cannot see it happening unless we get some serious PR on the case.
| Rob Kirton wrote: |
| We maybe need 100,000 sigs not 100. I just cannot see it happening unless we get some serious PR on the case. |
Mike Abbott
Accessible to everyone
I've mailed this to a couple of mailing lists to get some more interest, but how much of the general public are actually likely to understand (or care) enough about what the petition is for? I fear many would see a mail-out as spammage. 
Jon Gibbins, dotjay.co.uk, accessibility.co.uk wiki.
Jon Gibbins, dotjay.co.uk, accessibility.co.uk wiki.
Mike / Jon
Surely the answer is not spamming people.
A hundred signatories each persuade 10 people who are not web techies to sign. Neighbours, friends, colleagues (other than web heads). It takes the effort to then 1100 signatures. I am sure there is a simple way to explain this to most people...
Colleges would be a good place to start. If any of us have contacts there, maybe get the staff (and possibly students to sign up). The return is potentially higher than 10 from that current signatory
Think of it more as viral marketing rather than blocking up email inboxes with a single spam mail out.
I've seen so many cases of good words coming all of us who care about this matter, yet rarely are they followed up. None of can afford time to dedicate full time effort to this, but siurely we can all spend a little time to ensure at least 10 people outside of the web dev community sign up.
Surely the answer is not spamming people.
A hundred signatories each persuade 10 people who are not web techies to sign. Neighbours, friends, colleagues (other than web heads). It takes the effort to then 1100 signatures. I am sure there is a simple way to explain this to most people...
Colleges would be a good place to start. If any of us have contacts there, maybe get the staff (and possibly students to sign up). The return is potentially higher than 10 from that current signatory
Think of it more as viral marketing rather than blocking up email inboxes with a single spam mail out.
I've seen so many cases of good words coming all of us who care about this matter, yet rarely are they followed up. None of can afford time to dedicate full time effort to this, but siurely we can all spend a little time to ensure at least 10 people outside of the web dev community sign up.
| Rob Kirton wrote: |
| Surely the answer is not spamming people. |
Mike Abbott
Accessible to everyone
and for those of us who are bloggers, mentioning it there wouldn't hurt either...
admittedly, it's still likely to stay in the "web" community, but it will reach some who don't normally worry so much about accessibility.
Anyone know Zeldman, or Joe Clark, or Eric Meyer well enough to ask them (despite being based across the water) well enough to ask them? They're widely read in the UK too...
Jack Pickard The Pickards Information Services| Blog | Twit
admittedly, it's still likely to stay in the "web" community, but it will reach some who don't normally worry so much about accessibility.
Anyone know Zeldman, or Joe Clark, or Eric Meyer well enough to ask them (despite being based across the water) well enough to ask them? They're widely read in the UK too...
Jack Pickard The Pickards Information Services| Blog | Twit
If you e-mail Joe and he may reply but whether he wants to participate is another story.
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I've signed it now. I was the 151st signature.
Number 10 won't let me sign
It refuses to send me a confirmation email
Accessibility != Bobby
It refuses to send me a confirmation email
Accessibility != Bobby
| vigo wrote: |
| Number 10 won't let me sign It refuses to send me a confirmation email |
If it's a hotmail address, they've been having problems - there's a note to that effect on the right hand sidebar of the site.
Jon Gibbins, dotjay.co.uk, accessibility.co.uk wiki.
| dotjay wrote: | ||
If it's a hotmail address, they've been having problems - there's a note to that effect on the right hand sidebar of the site. |
Nope, I'm using a proper domain. I think they just don't like me. Maybe I should've voted for 'em
Accessibility != Bobby
Have you emailed the feedback address to let them know? It goes the the mySociety lot I think -- at least that's who replied to the feedback I sent them last week...
(Of course, that assumes they're not blocking your address altogether!)
(Of course, that assumes they're not blocking your address altogether!)
| chaos wrote: |
| Have you emailed the feedback address to let them know? It goes the the mySociety lot I think -- at least that's who replied to the feedback I sent them last week...
(Of course, that assumes they're not blocking your address altogether!) |
Good idea! Do me a favour a drop me a PM to remind me, I'm just off to bed
Accessibility != Bobby
Praise the lord, it finally worked! I've signed 
Accessibility != Bobby
Accessibility != Bobby



